3GT Episode 11: Enter the Matrix

After a brief follow up on Satan’s offering Christ the kingdoms of this world, the guys go philosophical, asking whether or not it’s possible that we’re merely a brain in a vat being made to see the world in an illusory way.  In the last segment, Barry’s challenge is picked back up and we name our theologians of choice.




  1. Pete February 19, 2016 at 6:00 am #

    Still not convinced. In fact, I do not believe what I said was accurately represented. I observed in your discussion no one mentioned that Satan is a liar, but the proof of the lies is in the Psalms which clearly state the Lordship of God over the kingdoms. My contention was too easily dismissed. We sing the Psalms – so you’ll need to delve deeper into their theology re: the kingdoms of the world. The offer of Psalm 2 is founded upon God’s ownership. “I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, a ‘You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.'” (Psa 2:7-9) I do agree that Jesus did not dispute the offer in his response, he didn’t say “those aren’t yours to give…” but the kingdoms were not. It’s the Psalms that tell me that Satan is a liar and was offering something for which he didn’t have a clean title. Recently some New Yorkers found out their homes had been sold, illegally. The seller was not who he pretended to be, so even though they offered for sale and sold a home, it was his to offer. So we can disagree on this finer point. The reality is “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.” (Rev 11:15)

    • Austin Brown February 19, 2016 at 8:54 pm #

      Hey Pete,

      Thanks for the followup!

      I’m just curious. Have you read my book “Satan’s Awful Idea”? I dedicate time to the subject in that work. You can download a PDF for free. Just search the title on this website.

      A couple questions. What reality is Psalm 2 talking about, specifically, verse 6? I believe it is the resurrection. And the “You are my Son/I have begotten you” language is kingly ascension language. Enthronement language. Christ is installed as King. As such, His victory at the cross obtained… well, everything.

      I think this is captured wonderfully in the passage you quote from Revelation. But if there is a real historical redemptive movement, what did it move from? In other words, what did the kingdom of darkness lose? And what did the kingdom of light gain?

  2. Jeff Bartel March 24, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

    I am disappointed that nobody chose to devote their study to a covenanter! 🙂

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