3GT Episode 45: Does ESV = ESS?

Grab your English Standard Version (ESV) Bible, look up John 14:10 and 16:13, then compare it with another version. Notice the difference?

That’s what the prof asks Aaron and Kyle to do on this episode of 3GT. From there they launch into a discussion of the recent debates regarding the Trinity and the teaching referred to as the Eternal Subordination of the Son (ESS). Does the ESV Study Bible promote this teaching? Listen as the guys seek to tease out in a clear way some of the subtle yet important distinctions needed about the nature of our God. Do they succeed? We’re not sure, but at least our onsite parishioner ends the show with some interesting applications!

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References Cited

Eternal Subordination of the Son and the ESV Study Bible | Rachel Miller

The Semi-Arianism of ESS | Brad Mason

Also, in God’s providence we just saw today that A Daughter of the Reformation also posted a podcast on this subject. You can listen at “Eternal Subordination of the Son – Podcast with Theology Gals.”

4 Comments

  1. Rachel July 18, 2017 at 4:13 pm #

    Great discussion! Thanks for talking about these important issues. And thanks for linking to my post.

    Btw, in his talk at ETS last November, Grudem stated that authority is not a divine attribute, but a personal property of the Father. He makes a distinction between power and authority. That Father and Son are equal in power but not in authority.

    • Barry York July 18, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

      Thank you, Rachel. I also just saw that you posted a podcast today on this same subject and added that link to the post.

      Thanks also for this further update. Sad that Dr. Grudem is continuing to make the wrong distinctions.

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